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Sweet Nectar of Validation – NV08 wrap up, reviews and podcast

February 29, 2008

Lighting Painting - Dave OlsonReally truly pleased to read all the kind words from folks who rolled by my Northern Voice presentation F*** Stats, Make Art – sorry for messing up your SEO mojo with the inappropriate title ;-). To all who showed up, thanks! Really a treat to see so many friends, heros, colleagues and new friends smiling back – makes doing my “Dave O Show” a blast.

I really dumped my guts into my spiel about making art with the mighty tools at our disposal. With a group of opinionated, smart and savvy folks, I wasn’t sure if my message would be redundant or met with indifference or confusion. The resultant cavalcade of positive remarks suggests I articulated much of what i set out to share.

Hmm … what do I come up with for next year? As per the convo percolating at Nancy White’s post, perhaps a creative arts track of some kind is in order. As for me, I’d very much to learn about the other part of the publishing business which i know very little about – agents, distribution, editors and all that. Remember tis important to know much fu!

As for creativity, no one expresses artistic passion at NV like Rachel Ashe, three years back we shared a Barefoot-hosted panel with Capn’ Ajax and a Ms. Yarnageddon, last year she snapped very thoughtful diptychs of photos of artists and their tools. This year was light painting – she rallied up some helpers and armed with a bushel of gadgets created some positively psychedelic works. Spiral Godess is my NV hero!

Also a lovely treat to riff with my Crazy Canucks colleagues in the Sports Blogging and Podcasting panel. This rag-tag group grew into a team over the past 61 shows and the panel was as easy and intuitive as the podcasts. We know each others strengths and are “giving” to one another in the conversation. The questions in the session were great and show a real understanding of the weird tension we have with the “official”ness of the Canucks and the trade off of objectivity and creative control vs selling out.

Alanah and JJ live outside the Vangorrvy tech industry bubble and run the two most popular Canucks blogs out there. Alanah’s is famous for drunken live blogging which is no surprise why she ranks #1 for drunken canucks fan. JJ is the people’s ambassador to GM Place – walking the concourse with him is a task as he’s stopped more often than Mike Weaver would. And of course my good buddies the Bollwitts – the Vancouver blog and podsafe music podcast darlings.

Digression: The day following NV, the Crazy Canucks met up at the rink for concourse podcasting at the Open practice. We hung out with the Ultimate Canucks Search guys and Kent from We are all Canucklehads podcast, enjoyed many laughs, coffees and interviews. More in the The Pressure Cooker! – Canucks Outsider #61 and TCC#61 – Searching for Ultimate Canucks at the 2008 Open Practice.

Mighty Thanks to the kinds people who organized the event. I’ve becomes great friends with some of these diligent inclusive and inspiring peeps and truly enjoy learning more about their many skills and noble dedication to knowledge sharing. I encourage others to step up and help out driving the vision of the event going forward. Special thanks to KK, Boris and Roland who (unbeknownst to them) served as sounding boards for bits and pieces of my presentation in progress. Their reaction, diatribes and riffs helped my schtick for the better.

So if you’ll pardon me, … for the self-indulgence file, here’s an annotated NV08 roundup for personal archeology (in no particular order):

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F*ck Stats, Make Art (daveo) – AUDIO!!! Recorded, Levelated, and added by Cosmo


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{Note: Last year’s podcast presentation induced the creation of yet another podcast feed which features all my odds and ends which don’t fit elsewhere from marketing lectures to sound seeing strolls. This is now a series i guess.}

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More pimping of the Northern Voice posted by Carol Browne at 1:59 PM on February 23, 2008

After Matt’s talk, I sat in Dave Olson’s session called “F&*% Stats, Make Art. He’s clever and funny. Dave’s big into the podcast side as well. I also spoke to him briefly after he spoke – very gracious.

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IndieScribe – Liveblogging Northern Voice blogger con, part deux »

Dave Olsen rules. He is swearing too. He is swearing so much his talk is called “f— stats, make art”. He stresses that we should put our hearts into our work, otherwise what we are doing is just bullshit. And that we need to start really caring about what we are creating. On and control your transparency; because he doesn’t really want to know all that shit about you. All humor aside it was an inspiring talk, Olsen stressed that we should get back to ourselves “people say that if you want to be an artist you need to go to art school – bullshit – study yourself” states Olsen. Find your craft and take it seriously he states, and there is a big difference between typing and writing. (Dave Olsen)

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dave olson: blogging and creativity Isabella Mori change therapy

today i want to tell you about the session that touched me the deepest. it was dave olson’s “f**k stats, make art”. miss 604 has a great synopsis of it, and you can find my notes at the end of this post.

one of the things that became very obvious for me after dave’s presentation was sadness/frustration/disappointment that i had abandoned my practice of doing at least one piece of “artful writing” a day, no matter how short, kitschy or silly. dave may just have just stirred me enough to go back to that.

so i ended up writing two poems and would like to dedicate them both to dave.

thanks to dave olson, no. 1

a concussion of the most
mindful sort
comes over me as i indulge in these
northern voices.
poems must be written,
suns must be risen,
earths must be quaked
in this pyramid of
gentle thoughts
– not just yours,
not just mine –
that shake up this world.

{note: Thanks so much for the lovely work! }

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raincoaster - Northern Voice Blogging Conference stream of consciousness debrief part 1: Moosecamp

I did one last year on Stats: The Forbidden Love, and given that this year there was a talk on “Fuck Stats: Make Art” maybe it’s time for another one. After all, they are independent principles, not antagonistic. And Oscar Wilde cared passionately about his stats, you just know it.

{Note: This is a sweet piece of prose!}

But I must admit, even as an Egalitarian of long standing, that there is something wrong with a world in which grown men are not ashamed to admit they’re too scared to go into neighborhoods that don’t frighten a woman. They looked me in the eye, one after another (the men, not the eyes; mine are virtually on top of one another, except the ones I keep in the freezer) and told me that the Gallery Gachet wasn’t in Gastown, it was (horror of horrors!) in the Downtown EastSide (although the out-of-towners called it the Lower East Side, presumably thinking it was a wormhole to Manhattan or something). As if Gastown were an idyll of upper-middleclassdom, which it is not and never has been. The people who work in Gastown are convinced it’s a postcard and that the bums and junkies they see on the street each day are “spillover” from the Downtown EastSide, just on the other side of Maple Tree Square. That the junkies, streetwalkers, and bums have been there since 1860 never seems to occur to them and, day in and day out, they remain convinced that it is the down and outs who are the anomaly, not the chino-clad technologists and graphic designers.

{my comment}

Dave O Posted February 26, 2008 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

After catching yuppie cooties at the Lame-lighter, i led a rag-tag gang (past the endlessly sprouting fancy furniture stores) on a late-night foray to the Gachet where we imbibed and roasted til the last Seabus sailed. Dig what they are brewing up there for sure.

PS My spiel about the fucking of the stats and so on … was more about inspiring folks to step it up and reap validation from producing quality work which evokes passionate responses rather than settling for the saccharine pleasure of statistics. There is some audio of my pontifying somewhere.

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Northern Voice: Fuck Stats, Make Art

Have I mentioned before that our pal Dave Olson is awesome? He’s here to talk about how Art Makes the Future. History may have been forged by popes and generals but the only reason we KNOW about it is because someone took the time to write and paint about it.

{Note: My pal Miss604 took attentive notes which resemble my own scribblings – which i’ll post once i recall where i stashed the bits}

Comments from Miss604′s post:

Tod Maffin Best talk so far. Totally inspiring.

Stephen Rees I had three pages of scribbled notes in my moleskin to transcribe. It seems to me that you got the spirit if his – very impressive – presentation.

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Full Circle Associates connections for a changing world, online and offline…What I missed at Northern Voice Nancy White

There were two sesssions I really wish I had not missed. One was Dave Olson’s F*ck Stats, Make Art Dossier.

Apparently, Dave was on the same stream as our “Writing on Walls” session – tapping into our creativity. I’m glad the session was recorded and blogged. It was interesting to see that there were quite a few sessions that pinged on a central core of creativity.

{my comment:}

  1. Indeed Nancy, i’d hoped to hang out in your arts and crafts funtime and enjoyed seeing lots of creative hi-jinks going on. Not sure if you remember but you made a great “podcasting lunch” sketch for my amigo Cosmo and i at Mindcamp 1.0 in Seattle. I also enjoyed your ’symbolic word poetry remix’ wall.I wish you could’ve stopped by to enjoy my schtick (and i’d have enjoyed your input for sure) but gratefully the recording and remarkable notes will tide you over til next year. With all these common themes emerging … How about a “analog expression” track? I was also displeased being up at the same time as Monique’s preso about books and writing and missing Alan’s tour de force ~ sigh.

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Facebook Wall round-up (used without permission with my pardons):

Keith Bao wrote at 5:19pm
“Know Much Fu”I f*@!k’n dig this!!!!!!

Refreshing and honest, down to the core.
It was an honour to be there listening.

Kris Krüg wrote at 10:23am

fuck stats make art rocked.
upgrading heros in progress.

Ariane Khachatourians wrote at 4:56pm yesterday

I’m home sick today and have been listening to back episodes of Postcards from GB for the last hour or so…listened to the most recent one twice cause I liked it so much :-)Ditto on the session motivation. Totally inspiring.

Alexa Booth wrote at 2:18pm yesterday

yeah agree with @victoria, I feel teh motivations too

Victoria Potter wrote at 1:10pm yesterday

hey man. I really enjoyed your NV talk. consider me officially motivated.

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Victoria Potter Northern Voice 2008: Done Like Dinner February 25, 2008

I had expected something bordering on more technical, but still had a good [and informative] time listening to all the speakers; including my friend Stephanie’s talk on design, and Dave Olson (aka. uncleweed) and his Fuck Stats Make Art motivator.

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Bob’s Blog Get there faster. Am I too old for Northern Voice?

There were two more sessions that were seminal. First, Dave Olson producer, writer and visionary gave a great talk 181050268_8408c6e9f6_m.jpgabout the need to make art, not stats. Truly great rant that put a number of things in perspective for me. We get so caught up in the techno, the art suffers. It shouldn’t. And if Dave has anything to do with it it won’t. When everyone seems bent on promoting wikis, blogs, 3rd Life and all the other accoutrements, Dave was extremely refreshing. I would suggest you follow his work. This guy is truly unique.

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Blog the Fire Alicia Northern Voice 2008

After looking at the schedule the first thing I saw was the Sports Blogging and Pod Casting. Which I am very excited about because that is the Industry I want to have a career in. I have heard about the speaker Rebecca Bollwitt from many people and with not a lot of women on the panel, I am quite excited!I think another session with Dave Olson will be interesting F*** Stats,Make Art which seems like my sort of thing and will be a good discussion.

{note: kudos on the fine taste to get the Daveo double-hitter ;-0}

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Northern Voice 2008 Wrap Up John Biehler

Dave Olson also had an outstanding session about making art instead of worrying about “fucking stats”. Looking forward to hanging more with these guys in Austin real soon.

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Northern Voice Stephen Rees Yet another blog for me

If you missed it, plan to go next year and book early. Maybe next time they will have decent coffee, enough food for lunch and somewhere to hang your coat up. But these are minor quibbles. Excellent presentations today from Matt Mullenweg, Marc Canter, Dave Olson and Alex Waterhouse Hayward.

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My dear amigo Chris Heuer rocked some photos

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At the tiki party, I read 4 pieces of freeverse findable at Mountain Highway:

Waiting Only Twice a Day

standing up already

Pulling to the strait

All the secrets just vanished

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{Note: After an appearance at the pre-party, sadly K-A wasn’t able to roll to the learning-fest}

NO NV08 FOR THIS CHICA

I was really looking forward to meeting a lot of bloggers whom I’d only read or heard about, as well as picking up a few tricks of the trade for myself.Hope to catch up with her at the Green Living show for happyfrog’s frogblogIT’S ALL GREEN, IT’S ALL GOOD

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Northern Voices 2008 Dana Oshiro meme.ca

Dave Olson’s podcast features a rousing rendition of the Canadian national anthem, his antics in Amsterdam and an impromptu longboard hockey game at the University of British Columbia’s Chan Centre.

{note: the Canadian anthem referenced is a humorously lackluster rendition from the Canadian Little League championship in Whalley, Surrey BC – fortunately i keep better versions in the feed too ;-))

I’m spoiled because new product demos are a dime a dozen in SF. I’m less interested in the technology available than I am in the way it is used. For this reason, my favorite presenter was a fellow I’d never heard of, Dave Olson.Dave Olson is a bit of hoser. He produces the Canucks Outsider Podcast, published a grade school punk zine featuring D.O.A and publishes Uncle Weed- a marijuana lifestyle blog and podcast. Olson’s lecture, entitled, “Fuck Stats, Make Art” was a welcome change from the widget wankery preached at most conferences. Olson entertained with embarrassing childhood anecdotes while still managing to deliver a great message.

He argues that somewhere in the process of monetizing and analyzing the web, content producers have sacrificed their need to create art and have fun. In essence, they’ve become meta-douches. It seems Dave Olson is putting the passion back into publishing and as long as this hoser keeps giving ‘er, I’m behind him 100%.

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TechVibes Greg Andrews Dave Olson on art, blogs, self expression, and redefining success

Dave Olson commanded a pre-lunch time slot with his rousing, bullet-point-free presentation entitled “F*ck Stats, Make Art” at Northern Voice 2008. “Art makes the future” Dave states. What we know about history is based on art, because someone chose to record it. Technology changes our focus on what art is. Oil paints were a technology revolution that allowed post-impressionist painting. The Internet has lowered the bar immensly for the distribution of art, but the most popular content seems to be the least meaningful, most simpleminded things like “some guy dancing around the world“.

Dave goes through a brief history of things he has created over the years: from a photocopied punk rock fanzine, through paintings, poetry, photography, writings, and now podcasting. He contrasts craft vs. art: you can take pride and enjoyment in your craft, your day job, but the meaningful personal expression comes through in art. Embracing translucency, instead of transparency, is his policy. No one cares to hear minor details of your life, and there should be things you don’t want to share, but you do want to put your whole self in the work. “Declare your story” and talk about what you create; “put the log back in blog”.

A slide with Google’s Larry Page and Sergey Brin pops up, and Dave goes into redefining success. Validation can be found from things other than stats, such as reader/listener mail and feedback. Success is for each person to define for themselves. Hold yourself to high standards and maintain your reputation. Hunter S. Thompson is referenced, in that he could write anything because he was very good at it. Rewards will come, possibly when you’re dead, but good art will have longevity. The presentation concluded with a standing ovation.

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I’m Taking the Northern Voice Challenge! Richard Eriksson Who Challenged Me At Northern Voice

Whether they knew it or not, intended it or not, the following people challenged me to think a little harder about creativity and craft. People close to me wonder why I don’t identify as being creative. The following Northern Voice speakers have me wondering too.

Dave Olson

Dave Olson challenged me to step it up a notch, and to consider another media form if I’m struggling at the one I think I’m good at (writing). Podcasting, maybe? I don’t like the sound of my own voice, so that strikes video out as well. Photography is the medium I sunk the most into already, so I will try to bring the SLR to more places, make the same mistakes everybody makes when they start out, and document the process better. I’d like to learn how to draw. And sing. Outside of the conference, he remarked that he likes to find a third place, away from work and away from home to be creative. This has me thinking of the ideal place to work somewhere (and on something) not domestic and not commercial, but somewhere in between.

(I know that my desire to learn how to sing directly conflicts with the angst about hearing my voice, so don’t bother pointing that out.)

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Marketer deluxe Jordan Behan of Strutta (who just unveiled their secret powers) My Northern Voice Wrap-up

My favorite presentation of the weekend wasn’t about blogging at all, but rather a homage to making art; a visually stunning and clever rant by my good friend Dave Olson entitled “F*ck Stats, Make Art.” A standing ovation followed his talk, and I think I was first on my feet.

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Who’d I miss? Post a link to join the muster roll. Thanks again to all for the kind words – i look forward to seeing what you brew up! Keep an eye and i’ll post my notes or slides or something, sometime, maybe …

Here are some of your favorite DaveO NV08 photos from other Flickr members.
Dave Olson by duanestoreyDSC_2226 by Ianiv & Arieanna
DaveO, Fornicating with Stats by Jordan BehanDave and Kris  by Jordan BehanIMG_0354.JPG by arianekNorthern Voice 2008 by kk+NV08 Moosecamp by Robert ScalesNorthern Voice 2008 - 075 by chrisheuerNorthern Voice 2008 - 25 by chrisheuerNorthern Voice 2008 by kk+Northern Voice 2008 by kk+DaveO by jmvNorthern Voice tiki dinner 2008 by penmachineLighting Painting - Dave Olson by goddess_spiralDave Olson - Northern Voice by Randy StewartIMG_7364 by chrisheuerDave Olsen Reads Rousseau by chrisheuerIMG_7119 by chrisheuerVan Gone by MacEwen

8 Comments leave one →
  1. March 1, 2008 5:54 am

    Wow, dude, that is a phenomenal amount of work. I was going to try a roundup myself, but after this it would only be derivative.

    PS Thanks for the complement on the prose. God knows I’m not in this racket for the money!

    See you at NV 2009 if not sooner.

  2. March 1, 2008 8:27 pm

    Lets do it — let’s organize something for next year! Maybe a whole day of MAKING art during Moose camp, then some reflection on it on Sat?

  3. March 5, 2008 10:49 am

    Thanks for the kudos Dave, and for being a willing subject for my lens at NV the past two years. Count me in for any artsy bits you and Nancy come up with.

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